The book that Joseph Smith dictated while staring into a hat. Eyewitness accounts clearly conflict with the image the LDS Church is currently attempting to portray. Maxwell feels that a curtain/separator was used only to partition off the living area to keep the translator and scribe from the eyes of visitors. https://youtu.be/6MyAeVyhi7U Joseph Fielding Smith and Gordon B Hinckley Falsifying Church History https://youtu.be/2VUsqUeFxi8GORDON b Hinkley Denying Church Doctrines      https://youtu.be/QDDqJ0paPs0GBH JESUS wants us 4 an  Air Raid   https://youtu.be/fSl5w1uANMQ.Gospel Topics  Essay DNA in the  Promised Land     https://youtu.be/bPEPGWgcS3E. 1. Magic Hat - Magic Random Hat - Random Names - Random Numbers. (See also The Documentary History of the Church 3:29, and the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg.120.). Magic in the Middle Ages. Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. Church-published depictions of the "translation" usually show Smith sitting at a table, sometimes wearing the "Urim and Thummmim", with the "golden plates" open before him, while he dictated the words to a scribe. For instance, tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith, who previously served as an LDS Church historian for 50 years, denied Joseph Smith’s use of the seer stone. If so many witnesses testify to Smith’s use of a hat and a magical rock, why don’t Mormon books and periodicals, for the sake of accuracy, emphasize the fact? Mormons believe Joseph Smith found gold plates engraved with writing in ancient Egyptian in New York and God helped him translate the text using an egg-sized stone Joseph Smith, Jr.'s role in the quest for treasure was especially important since he had a seer stone. At one point Emma stated the following: ‘In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us… . 39). Site Menu. And that is why Smith, his defenders, and the church's apologists have worked so hard over the years to debunk the reports of Smith's folk-magic activities. When Bill McKeever visited the restored Peter Whitmer cabin at Fayette (NY) in April of 1990, a curtain was hanging between two tables where the translation supposedly took place. (1) ... 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He writes: “Our primary focus in studying the Book of Mormon should be on the principles of the gospel anyway, not on the process by which the book came forth. Joseph Smith and his magic top hat! Doctrine and Covenants / Pearl of Great Price, Mormon Objections to Christian Evangelism, Teachings of the Presidents of the Church, “Did Joseph Smith Use the Seer Stone…or didn’t he?”, Book of Mormon Translation: Though Questions Persist, One Thing is Clear. The reason I give for this conclusion is found in the statement of the Lord to the Brother of Jared as recorded in Ether 3:22-24. Kagura. In his Comprehensive History of the Church (CHC), LDS historian and Seventy Brigham H. Roberts quotes Martin Harris, one of the three witnesses whose name is found in every edition of the Book of Mormon since its original edition. Smith came from an unremarkable New England family. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. Use the Magic Hat Full Screen. “Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. He was neither old nor a ‘money digger,’ nor an impostor, nor in any manner deserving of the epithets which they applied to him.”, The problem with Smith’s conclusion is that Joseph Smith admitted to being a money digger in an interview printed in the “Elders’ Journal” (v.1, num.2, pp.28-29). Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. We pray that both the LDS people, and those investigating the LDS Church, will take a closer look at how this supposedly “sacred” book came about. Question: What is the probability that Joseph Smith possessed items related to "magic"? Translating the Book of Mormon w/ Hats & Stones “A Treasured Testament”, Ensign, July 1993, pg 61; “The details of this miraculous method of translation are still not fully known. Despite the early documentation, as provided by some of the witnesses of the actual translation, history has been revised to restore credibility to the original creation of the LDS Church. The founder of the LDS Church, Joseph Smith, claimed an angel named Moroni visited him in September of 1823. Enter a list of names or numbers - and the magic hat will pull a random result out! Explaining the particulars about using a stone in a hat (besides drawing attention to the occult nature of using seer-stones) might have also suggested that material was being hid in the hat for Joseph to refer to. If you will look at his history, and at the character of his parents, and surroundings, and consider the object of his life, you can discover how much consistency there was in the charges brought against him. It also goes against the explanations of the earlier witnesses. 185k members in the exmormon community. Harris said that Smith possessed a seer stone, described by Roberts as a “chocolate-colored, somewhat egg-shaped stone which the Prophet found while digging a well in company with his brother Hyrum.” Roberts goes on to state that it was by using this stone that “Joseph was able to translate the characters engraven on the plates” (CHC 1:129). According to Smith’s testimony, four more years went by before the angel allowed him to retrieve the gold plates. 39). Then again the Prophet was impressed by Moroni with the fact that these stones were given for that very purpose. When Mr Jones and Stumpy find a hat, they start to believe it has magical powers and make some wishes. On the other hand, if the translation has no basis in fact, but instead is based on fraud, then it should be exposed and the man’s teachings about God and faith should be debunked. In fact, LDS Apostle Neal Maxwell, who authored the article, quotes Apostle Orson Pratt from 1874 as saying that Smith relied less and less upon the seer stones the more he learned how to translate (pg. Joseph Smith :stone hat on Vimeo Join Joseph Smith, originally Joseph Smith, Jr., (born December 23, 1805, Sharon, Vermont, U.S.—died June 27, 1844, Carthage, Illinois), American prophet and founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.. In this picture there is no sign of the so-called seer stones or the hat. Harris noted. A stained glass style of limited animation depicting accounts of how Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon. 1, p. 188). Joseph used this same peep stone, or one like it, in his translation of the Book of Mormon. '”, In volume two of “A New Witness for Christ in America,” LDS writer Francis Kirkham notes that Joseph Smith’s brother William also confirmed the use of the hat and seer stone. Although allowing for the possibility that seer stones could have been used by Smith, Maxwell says this did not mean Smith was translating letter by letter as the earlier witnesses suggest he did. It seems apparent that the Book of Mormon was, in fact, brought about using an occultic method. There is plenty of evidence to show that Smith, the one whom Mormons claim God used to restore the “true” church, was quite fascinated with the occult, as were members of his immediate family. What is the evidence? 5 [panel removed] [ removed by community vote ] 6. You know, the one he stared into to translate the majority of the Book of Mormon? ), also shows a curtain separating Smith from his scribe Oliver Cowdery. “By aid of the Seer Stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin, and when finished he would say ‘written;’ and if correctly written, the sentence would disappear and another appear in its place; but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used” (CHC 1:29). Thank you! “These stones, the Urim and Thummim which were given to the Brother of Jared, were preserved for this very purpose of translating the record, both of the Jaredites and the Nephites. Did he get it as a birthday present from his Parents ? Dan Vogel also mentions Emma’s 1879 interview on pages 98-99 of his book, The Word of God: “Smith’s wife, Emma Smith Bidamon, was interviewed late in her life by her son Joseph Smith III about her knowledge of the early [p.99] church. Page 29 of the book, Meet the Mormons (1965 ed. He wrote: “While the statement has been made by some writers that the Prophet Joseph Smith used a seer stone part of the time in his translating of the record, and information points to the fact that he did have in his possession such a stone, yet there is no authentic statement in the history of the Church which states that the use of such a stone was made in that translation. We simply do not know the details” (pg. It may have been so, but it is so easy for a story of this kind to be circulated due to the fact that the Prophet did possess a seer stone, which he may have used for some other purposes” (Doctrines of Salvation 3:225-226). Obviously, many Mormons have tried to deny that Smith had anything to do with glass looking or money digging. This is how Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon.In fact he translated nothing, he dictated from his head in his hat.The 'supposed' Gold Plates were always covered wrapped in a cloth and sometimes were never even seen nearby as he dictated from his hat. He is also one of the many people who met a indescribable being and received a part of its own body. Yet we do have a few precious insights. A forum for ex-mormons and others who have been affected by mormonism to share news, commentary, and comedy … flickr Second, as far as religions go, Mormonism is strikingly new—less than 200 years old—so most people aren't used to it yet. In Joseph Smith, “Letter Book A,” 1832–1835, 1–[6] (earliest numbering). It seems odd that God would provide these instruments and then allow the translator to have more freedom as the translation went on. Many of our effects have appeared on television and stage around the world. According to Elder Russell M. Nelson: “Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. 7. According to a court record dated March 20, 1826, Smith was described as a “glass-looker,” a common scam in which the glass looker claimed to have the ability to find buried treasure (for a fee, of course). https://youtu.be/4fOGOC88wa450 problems with  the Church Disavowing Doctrines . Whitmer details exactly how the stone produced the English interpretation. Gospel Topics Essays What are they telling us about the Brethren https://youtu.be/LZRkJCloKWQGospel Topics DNA Contradicting LDS Scriptures     https://youtu.be/-oKT52_cAXcGospel Topics and Revising History . What did he need Golden Plates and magic spectacles for if he wasn't even going to use them to produce the text? Spit out poop at water fountain JULIA GILLARD. Victoria292. Joseph Smith was a member theBravers, Code Named:Druid, and was known as Sumida Shiro in his previous life. JOSEPH'S MAGIC HAT* Joseph Smith's claim of receiving gold plates from a holy angel, has attracted millions of converts to the Mormon Church, a church which now boasts a membership of nearly thirteen million, and continues to add about a million new members every three years or less. Maxwell also makes it a point to concur with Emma Smith’s account that there was probably no blanket or curtain hung between Joseph Smith and his various scribes during this process. Joseph Smith using a hat to block out external light while gazing into his stone (Dialogue Journal, Summer 1982) Fact-checking Mormon History: was Joseph Smith a Convicted Con Man? Martin Harris was one of the scribes Joseph Smith used to record the writing on the plates. Yet because its coming so amply fulfilled Isaiah’s prophecy of a `marvelous work and a wonder,’ we may find strengthened faith in considering how marvelous and wondrous the translation was…” (Ensign, January 1997, pg. Early Mormon History, Joseph Smith's Magic Stone in the Hat Check out another article titled “Did Joseph Smith Use the Seer Stone…or didn’t he?”, A review of the Book of Mormon Translation Gospel Topics Essay  Part 1  Part 2   Part 3   Part 4  Part 5  Part 6  Part 7  Part 8  that aired October 5-14, 2015 (Article). And it seems extremely curious that Maxwell makes no reference to the hat. What is interesting in this assertion is that Smith, whom Maxwell admits did not know any ancient languages and was said to be ignorant of the facts in his Bible, could have improved his translation abilities without becoming proficient in the language he was translating! It hardly seems reasonable to suppose that the Prophet would substitute something evidently inferior under these circumstances. Joseph Smith (Sharon, 23 december 1805 - Carthage, 27 juni 1844) was de stichter van de Heiligen der Laatste dagen-beweging en de grondlegger van de Kerk van de heiligen der laatste dagen(ook wel bekend als de mormoonse kerk).Hij was de zoon van Joseph Smith Sr. en Lucy Mack. Again the LDS Church seems to be revising its history. If he was using these “divine instrumentalities” to translate the language into English. They were filled with engravings, in Egyptian characters and bound together in a volume as the leaves of a book, with three rings running through the whole. 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